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Rail Commission Considers ACE Service Reduction

Rail Commission Considers ACE Service Reduction

At this morning’s meeting of the San Joaquin Regional Rail Commission, the Board voted to suspend the operation of the Midday ACE train in concept, and opened the 30-day public comment period on the service reduction.  The public hearing for adoption of the ACE service reduction has been set for the October 2nd 2009 regular Commission board meeting.

 

Based on direction from the Board and feedback from commuters, staff developed the costs associated with moving the 4th train into a commuter slot.  Keeping the 4th train in the midday slot with an average of 50 passengers in each direction, or less than 5% of the annual ridership, will cost the Commission between $700,000 and $800,000 this fiscal year, assuming a stable ridership and no increase in fuel.  In addition to this current service budget, moving the Midday train to a commute-hour slot would cost an additional $560,000 because of increased shuttle fees.  These costs are simply not feasible with the current economic climate.

 

Now, it appears that unemployment trends may be a much more powerful influence than any marketing efforts on overall ACE ridership.  This being the case, a more conservative approach has been approved to suspend the operations of the 4th train – midday or otherwise – in October and wait to reintroduce the 4th train into a peak slot when the unemployment statistics begin to measurably improve.

 

Starting today, comments regarding this service reduction are welcome and encouraged by sending an email to the Director of Planning and Programming.  Comments will be accepted until the October 2nd board meeting, and the public is invited to participate in the board meeting either online at www.acerail.com or in-person at 949 E. Channel Street, Stockton, CA 95202.

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September 3. 2009 13:00

I understand the need for conservation of ACE's resources. However, on the occasions when I have to go home early I really do like the noon day train. I have used it three times in the last 10 days. So, if you remove this train from service will you re-deploy the bus service. I really do not want to have no way home to get home before 5:30pm.

Marlene Vidal

September 5. 2009 12:02

Have you considered that having the option of taking the midday train increases ridership on the peak trains? Because just having that option there would make at least some people more likely to take the peak trains, if they know that they could get home early if they needed to. So I predict that the ridership will drop by more than just the 50 people on that train. Unfortunately, I'm not sure it really makes financial sense to keep running this train even when you consider these secondary effects. As for moving the train to a commute slot, I think it would be highly beneficial, and I think there's a significant market of people who want to get to work at 10 am rather than 9 (for example, about half the people where I work get in at 10 am).

Arkadiy Orlov

September 11. 2009 15:21

This wasn't my area of interest and I fine it a little confusing at the end.Yes that is true it appears that unemployment trends may be very powerful influence than any other marketing efforts on overall ACE ridership.

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September 18. 2009 09:08

While, I would hate to see the midday train go away, I would much rather see an additional train added to the peak commute times, especially one later in the evening. It would add some much needed flexibility to my scedule if I would be able to stay at work an extra hour on some days.

Ken D

September 22. 2009 11:33

ACE - get rid of the midday train and use a bus in the time slot.

When you first announched a long time ago you were adding a 4th train in the midday slot I and others complained like crazy that the train should be later in the commute and would be way under-utilized in the middle of the day. I even provided evidence of how the route you take was still the 2nd worst congested route in the bay area even after the last train had passed by, meaning the need was very much there for a later train, not an earlier one. You ignored me and everyone else who complained, claiming "205 construction" was a good reason for an earlier train (acting as if the construction just "vanished" every evening).

You lost up to $800,000 anually? Well, tough beans, ACE. Maybe you should have listened to us, your ridership, and actually put a train where it was needed.

I am happy ACE exists and I enjoy the service when i'm lucky enough to get out early from work so I can use it. I look forward to the day ACE can provide later service so I and others can use it more often.

Justin

September 22. 2009 13:38

In the event that the midday train is suspended, will the Amtrak bus be available to ACE passengers during the same times as it was previously?

Kris O

September 22. 2009 22:25

I along with several users use the midday train every single day. We have monthly passes and in the last two months, I have personally seen an increase in not only daily riders but more occasional riders as well. I love that ACE has this service available since I get out of school at noon just in time to catch this train and get to work back in Modesto. If it were not for this train I would not be able to have gone to school this year. Physically being there everyday I can tell you there have been many more "keep the train" requests than anything else. This train is a huge asset to many and it should not be rid of. In the event that it were to be taken away a bus would help in its place but would still not be anyone best advantage. I hope this comment goes into consideration for the people that truly need it and appreciate this service. Thank you very much. God Bless.

Luis Lopez

September 25. 2009 12:34

What a pity to eliminate this train ... meanwhile, a small fortune is being spent on landscaping the half block in front of the ACE station building. Yes, I am sure I will hear that grant/aid money cannot be used for operations, only for capital investment. Who is going to profit from this new park? The local area is not exactly pretty.

We (my wife and I) use the so-called midday train out in the morning - for trips to the Bay Area and SF. We usually return on one of the regular commuter trains. The commute hour trains are truly not practical - even that last departure at 6.40am means one needs to get up at an ungodly hour. So, we shall be very sorry to see the train go ... just like so much public transportation in California (and in the US in general); it is simply not taken seriously - will it ever be?

Roger Barnett

September 25. 2009 20:34

My Son rides the midday train everyday to get to school in Fremont. As his classes begin at 1pm, it's not realistic or practical for him to take the train prior to 7am. He is committed to finishing his course of studies and must ride a bike to get from home to the train, then rides train to a bus, and then back. I sincerely hope there will be some kind of alternative transportation for the many people like my son who are trying to get ahead and have no other choice.

Susan Murphy

September 26. 2009 09:00

My Son attends SFSU in San Francisico and rides the midday train and bart to get there. He built his class schedule around the midday train schedule. Eliminating the train could mean the end of his being able to attend college in San Francisco. Will a midday AMTRAK bus be added in place of the midday train should it be decided to eliminate the train? Also, the latest statistics are indicating unemployment is slowing.

Kevin Conde

September 28. 2009 09:53

I am a daily commuter from tracy to great america. At least 3 to 4 times I have to reach office around noon due to personnel work at home. It will be quite disturbing for me, if the mid-day train is cancelled. I buy the monthly ticket and still have to drive my car for few days a month in case this train is cancelled.This will not only add to my monthly expense, but will cause a lot more inconvenient. Mid-day train is very useful. ACE please re-think on this decision.
Thank you

KDS Singh

September 28. 2009 11:09

Thanks to everyone for your feedback. I can assure you that we are listening to all of your comments. The final decision regarding this issue will be made at the board meeting on Friday.

Thanks,
D'Andre
ACE

D'Andre Berry

September 30. 2009 17:07

Why not move the midday train to the peak hour. This will increase the options for the peak time riders. It will help in attracting new riders and increase the ridership of current riders.

Pravin Balasubramaniam

October 1. 2009 10:16

By eliminating a mid-day riders' trip, you will also eliminate his rush hour trip, too -- whether it is in the morning or the evening. By eliminating midday trains, you will disenfranchise an entire class of people who do not require (or desire) to spend the entire day in one place -- i.e., people with appointments and meetings. Scheduled train service should not be run solely for the convenience of a limited group of people who are able to adhere to a fixed schedule, while inconveniencing everyone else, and hurting commercial activity along the way. This is a very bad idea.

Lawrence

October 2. 2009 12:44

People dont always commute in the early morning hours, and it sure is nice not to have to sit with a packed train car face to face with strangers. I have to sit on the ground half the time on the returning train so its nice to be able to have silence and relax on the mid morning train. Im sure the company has well enough funds for the rest of the year to keep it running. Although I find it odd that ACE decides to take away the mid day train right before autumn and winter, but wouldnt it have been more practical to have suspended it during the summer? ACE offers a service that many people rely on day to day so why take that away leaving folks stranded, some people cant drive for medical reasons, some people dont like to spend 2 hours stuck in traffic commuting to a destination only an hour away, and some people dont have drivers licenses. So just keep things the way they are, and maybe financial stability will follow into the next year.

Concerned Commuter

October 8. 2009 15:15

I feel Ace in afternoon is waste not sure who suggested it in first place you end up spending all your work time in train and reach office by lunch time.
IT might have been great if the train was scheduled a hour later in the morning after train 05 and go back evening a hour later..
You should spend some decent money advertise that people know there is a train Ace many people don't know.
I like Ace commute but ACE is not paying and advertising to encourage commuters.

Good luck
Rajnath

Rajnath

January 5. 2010 22:11

I feel Ace in afternoon is waste not sure who suggested it in first place you end up spending all your work time in train and reach office by lunch time.
IT might have been great if the train was scheduled a hour later in the morning after train 05 and go back evening a hour later..
You should spend some decent money advertise that people know there is a train Ace many people don't know.
I like Ace commute but ACE is not paying and advertising to encourage commuters.

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