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Rail Commission Approves Suspension of 4th Round Trip Train

Rail Commission Approves Suspension of 4th Round Trip Train

At the conclusion of the 30 day public comment period, the Rail Commission approved the suspension of the 4th round trip train, effective November 2, 2009.  With an average of 50 passengers one way and a cost of nearly $800,000 annually, it is not cost effective in these economic conditions to operate this train.   It is important to note that the 4th round trip train will be reinstated once economic conditions improve. 

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October 9. 2009 09:58

Makes sense. It only got 50 passengers because it was not in a peak commute slot. Wonder what the folks who were relying on it to get to school will do. Will a bus replace it?

If the train ran at 7:30am out of Stockton and returned at 6:30pm out of San Jose you'd get a heckuva lot more than 50 passengers daily! Too bad the commision isn't willing to try it out.

Justin

October 12. 2009 06:22

I've taken this train. People take it going to doctors in Pleasanton Area and the Bay Area and to San Francisco or Stanford utilizing BART, Wheels, in conjunction with other public transportation. Hope to see it return again. What about federal funding for a high speed rail so that people in Central Valley/Tracy will have these ammenities? Thanks! Hope the economy picks up soon, too.

Joseph

October 14. 2009 08:56

I understand about the mid-day train.
Why is the 6:30pm bus from San Jose being cancelled? Not only me but others depend on that bus being available. Especially for those my bus was late, got stuck in traffic, had to work late or missed the last train moments. Since the 6:30pm bus soon to be "WAS" available. We knew that there was at least one last mode of transportation to get home.

Charlotte Roberson

October 14. 2009 16:29

This is really bad news. How many people ride the 12:05 San Jose to Stockton train on FRIDAY'S? Lots more that mid week I would guess. We just want to get home after a long week of working long hours in order to get off early on Fridays.

Pam

October 15. 2009 09:39

Ok, I just heard about the late bus being cancelled. Wow. So now if we don't go running out of work early every day to catch the (what I call early) last train, we're completely screwed? Yikes.

I understood removing the midday train but what is the justification for removing the last bus? Is it really that expensive to operate one bus?

I have taken the last bus a couple of times when I missed the 5:30pm train, but would highly prefer a train in the slot. If a train were in the slot i'd take ACE 2-3 more times a week instead of driving.

Where are the meeting minutes from the SJRC board meeting anyway that made these decisions? It's been almost 2 weeks since the meeting occured. Maybe that would help to answer our questions as to why the last bus was cancelled.

Justin

October 15. 2009 15:33

I don't understand, why the bus is being removed. Can't they rethink about the bus?

kevin

October 16. 2009 13:54

Regrettably, Amtrak will not be able to continue their partial funding of the late night #3910 bus due to reduced state subsidies. As a result, ACE/SJRRC cannot fully subsidize the continued operation of this bus.

Hubert

Hubert

October 27. 2009 15:03

So with the removal of the mid-day train and late bus will our ticket fees go down since they're saving all this money?

Fernando

October 28. 2009 18:21

This means I will be driving more. I rode the mid day train at least once a week. I often have early morning conference calls, that prevent me from taking the earlier train, and I do from them home and then take the mid-day train in. It really irks me that the government subsides highway construction and bails out banks but doesn't help with public transportation.

Michael Leonard

October 29. 2009 07:45

Please consider alternate, flexible solutions.

A cost effective way to serve the community is to use a train for large number of people and substitute a bus when appropriate. An additional cost saving may be incurred if someone who needs to commute from Stockton to San Jose anyways was paid for driving. This technique may also be contracted to a local bus agency or firm.

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Well you didn't mentioned that how much ha paased to moving train in such condition. really if it is going on from many days. then i think this is too late.
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April 15. 2010 20:45

I took this train sometimes when I had to work late and just needed an extra hour of sleep but for the most part, I felt the hours of this train were not convenient. 9:30AM out of Stockton is just too late. I wish it could have been 8:30AM. I would have taken it much more frequently if that were the case. Please consider when you bring it back changing the time to 8:30AM.

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